Haunted Tower skip

[skywise]

In Haunted Tower you can grab extra skulls in the second house, then fall out of the next house, click the map checkpoint to restart the timer while keeping the skulls.

 

[Solawr]

I don't necessarily see the issue here, the speedrun already involves putting the heads in and then restarting the map so the door on the 2nd house is open.

 

[skywise]

For my info, how do you know what the speedrun involves and that it's not a bypass? I'm new and this seemed to me like what the pinned post calls "preparing" https://forums.minr.org/threads/shortcut-definitions-and-discussion.2779/

 

[Solawr]

The shortcut rule needs to be updated to be more specific, there are many examples of this kind of thing being used in runs. Almost every puzzle map I've seen uses a form of preparing.

 

[BoggledToggo]

This would definitely come under the banner of 'preparing', and shouldn't be allowed in speedruns.

That being said, I understand that it's very hard to retroactively ban, as I imagine many people will have set times using this method at this point. Not sure how this is best handled.

 

[Alphaesia]

Setting up maps for speedrunning has been disallowed for many years. However, the rules as currently written are not very clear on this. The previous iteration of the rules stated this much more clearly:

• Any maps that involve preparing or setting up sections for faster completion are considered skips.
• Players that knowingly use skips or exploits are expected to report them within the day of discovering them.

A similar case was brought up in staff channels in December. The consensus, as far as I can tell, was to keep it disallowed and to update the rules to be more specific. That hasn't happened yet, but we really should get onto it. I've gone ahead and unpinned Ricky's old thread as we don't update it anymore and I think it is drifting out of sync with the current/intended rules.

I can't imagine anyone would be retroactively punished for this, but we will need to clear out the relevant times.

 

[Solawr]

"I can't imagine anyone would be retroactively punished for this, but we will need to clear out the relevant times."

The problem is that there are SO many times that use a preset skip, there would need to be a full on witch hunt for these kind of runs