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Remove speed from spawn?

Should we remove speed from spawn?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • No

    Votes: 20 80.0%

  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .

swimmy1212

Swimming around
Op
Feb 28, 2015
598
303
Since it's yes or no I think everyone's picking no, but I think you might have more variety if one of the options was 'reduce speed'. Speed 3 is really fast, it would be a lot less annoying if you bumped it down some.
 

Srentiln

minr op since Nov 2011
Op
Oct 28, 2013
1,994
1,052
I don't see a need for it myself. Just gives them time to see things
 

Zombie

CEO of Organized Chaos
Op
Board
Jun 8, 2015
478
397
My FOV is kinda at quake pro so it makes my screen like screwy. And like plates that give you it, it's confusing when you spawn with it.
 

Pro Luma

I Like Anime but Not All Anime Just Some Anime
Mod
Feb 18, 2014
127
65
I don't really understand why you have removed the speed. Whilst a couple of people have complained about it the overall consensus was to not remove the speed (and by a really large majority). Whilst swimmy makes an excellent point on perhaps toning down speed ignoring the poll is like ignoring the word of the people you asked. Simply because the people who voted no didn't state their point in the discussion thread doesn't mean you should ignore the results of the poll. I personally really liked the speed at spawn and never really felt it got in the way of anything. @Chillers
 

Srentiln

minr op since Nov 2011
Op
Oct 28, 2013
1,994
1,052
I think part of that was because of the discussion of changing spawns all together.

Also, in regards to polls in general,

There is a famous story of President Abraham Lincoln, taking a vote in a cabinet meeting on whether to sign the Emancipation Proclamation. All his cabinet secretaries vote nay, whereupon Lincoln raises his right hand and declares: "The ayes have it!"
A poll doesn't necessarily garuntee an outcome, it is meant to give general feedback of the question. If the majority opinion isn't giving more feedback than just answering the poll, it comes off as more of an indifferance than a strong opinion.
 
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Pro Luma

I Like Anime but Not All Anime Just Some Anime
Mod
Feb 18, 2014
127
65
I think part of that was because of the discussion of changing spawns all together.

Also, in regards to polls in general,



A poll doesn't necessarily garuntee an outcome, it is meant to give general feedback of the question. If the majority opinion isn't giving more feedback than just answering the poll, it comes off as more of an indifferance than a strong opinion.
I can understand why you believe that the poll was nothing more of a general question but the matter of fact is that the discussion upon speed hadn't explored different routes. Metsune/_sPolendina_ was the first to bring up this argument but in this thread he stated that a toggle could be made for those who wished to have speed and those who didn't. The simple removal of speed means those of us who actually liked the speed and thought it was useful for navigating spawn easier had this taken away without any look at a compromise or change to the system. There was also the possibility to lower the speed to make sure it doesn't affect those with higher FOV's which also wasn't fully explored. I would of been very happy with a compromise to the speed system such as a reduction of the potency or a toggle (preferably a toggle) but these options were not offered or even thought upon any further than a simple statement. Also to your point about the polls, of course the poll isn't a complete factor but this matter needed to be solved in a yes/no way unless a compromise was reached by those who wanted speed and those who didn't. You can state all you want that the poll wasn't the deciding factor but in many cases new players or whiteys could feel anxious or nervous to post on the forums which is why this thread introduced a poll system, it allows an anonymous vote between players and not respecting the decision made by the poll is ignoring a player base which regularly visits through spawn. Some greens never really visit spawn whilst for Whiteys it is their only way of navigation throughout the server. With no direct access to FFA it means that they are the ones most commonly affected by the speed/ speed removal.
 

Srentiln

minr op since Nov 2011
Op
Oct 28, 2013
1,994
1,052
Luma, my point was that the decision made was made because Chillers was most likely considering more factors than just the opinions of those responding. When you are looking at factors not voiced in a poll, posted explanations of opinion are very important for looking to balance.

Additionally, I am sure that Chillers was looking to resolve an issue before working to improve a feature. It is not the intent of staff to ignore players, but the order of events may sometimes make it seem like opinions were swept under the rug.
 

Chillers

Administrator
Op
Oct 26, 2013
2,275
1,440
My initial decision was only temporary. Its not easy pleasing so many people over something so small. It was causing more of a hinderence to players who wanted it disabled than players it didnt bother. Fortunately rick came up with a script to solve it.
 
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