[SUGGESTIONS] Campaigns - the Improved Challenges

Ondrashek

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Sep 17, 2020
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First, note that I do not suggest removing challenges entirely, and instead a remake some very popular challenges into campaigns instead.

So, what are challenges now? Basically "map playlists", where you basically need to beat all maps in a set order. Cool, I guess, but it can be a lot better than just a playlist.

So, I have an idea of "Campaigns", with extra features that make the maps more engaging and challenging. When you start a campaign, you first get brought into a simple "hubworld" for the campaign, with teleport signs to maps, and Chapter Gates.
In each "level" - map, 3 stars could be obtained. One for just completing the map, and 2 for completing "trials". Stars are then used in unlocking chapter gates, and at the end, the stars are converted to Campaign Points.

A few ideas for star trials that I have are:
- Time Trial - Simple and easy. Beat a map under the specified time.
- Finding Trial - Beat a map, but you have to find a star to complete it.
- NoCP Trial - The map has to be completed without using checkpoints.

The benefits over challenges would be:
- It is more than a playlist. It has a small hubworld, and has stuff like chapters and stars.
- It gives more challenge to the maps.
- You can play the maps in any order you like, and some can even be skipped if you have enough stars.

So, what do you think? Would it be better or worse than the current challenge system?
 

ash202

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Nov 30, 2014
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This is a great proposal. Love to see the ideas stir. :) I’m curious to see how much traction this can get. Wretched Earth star challenge pl0x
 

thepookabear

It's all good
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Apr 10, 2016
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I think this is a great idea but it would require a lot of work. I’m also not sure if we have everything we need plug-in wise to make something as big as this flow well, but it’s a great idea!
 

KittyCatElite

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Jul 30, 2020
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Sounds great, finding trial sounds somewhat odd though? Would you have to explore the map to find the hidden star? I can see that getting very time-consuming. We already have no checkpoint challenges so I think that would work fine as a trial, and I would be excited to see time trials regardless. This sounds a lot like an improved odyssey, I think it could happen given enough time and more ideas.
 

BTJRedwing

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Mar 7, 2020
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I don't know how easy it would be plugin-side, but I really love the idea of a time trial modifier. It would really open up a whole new set of possibilities in terms of challenges. The rest of your post is similar to Minr Odyssey and would likely be very difficult to implement, though you bring a lot of cool ideas to the table.
 

Ondrashek

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Sep 17, 2020
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I don't know how easy it would be plugin-side, but I really love the idea of a time trial modifier. It would really open up a whole new set of possibilities in terms of challenges. The rest of your post is similar to Minr Odyssey and would likely be very difficult to implement, though you bring a lot of cool ideas to the table.
Yes, but isn't Minr Odyssey like, unlocked at 500 points or another ridiculous amount?
 

Ondrashek

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Sep 17, 2020
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1000 points, which is currently 28% of all points on the server as of writing this.
I cannot even complete HC; I don't think I'll ever get 1k points. Campaigns would be more accessible, some would still have point locks but not such a ridiculous amount.
 

ezzaezza

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Feb 27, 2016
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I cannot even complete HC; I don't think I'll ever get 1k points. Campaigns would be more accessible, some would still have point locks but not such a ridiculous amount.
Getting 1000 points is not as bad as it seems. Bahnarli obtained 100% completion in a few months, with passion and dedication getting 1000 points is easy(ish)
 

Thogin

Space maps are the best ones.
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Dec 11, 2020
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I'm not that good at parkour (I mostly do orange ones) and I still got 1k points having a lot of green maps left. I'm sure you can do it Ondra. 1k is probably obtainable doing only mazes/puzzles too.
 
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