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I have a secret

spolendina

twpsyn
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pol, it is a valid mechanic that has been used successfully in several maps. The main frustration that comes in relation to drah's maps is where he uses it. Having to guess at the very end of a parkour map has frustrated people for a long time. However, as previously stated, other maps that have implemented it as a "main body" mechanic are considered enjoyable.

Just because the way something is implemented in some cases is frustrating doesn't make it invalid.
Even so, it's pretty cheap. If the map is advertised as a guess map, then that's fair enough. But if you go in to a parkour/maze map and then half way through (or even worse) at the end there is a guess, that makes me do this..



To me it feels like the map maker is like.. Oh, I need some filler. I know, a pointless guess section
 

Srentiln

minr op since Nov 2011
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If you do that, you need to seek help from an anger management specialist.

You can't place restrictions on the use of a mechanic without opening a big can of worms.
 

Hex

Board Grandpa
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My issue with the guess as used in Drah's maps was that getting top times was impossible (specifically Lava Parkour, that one had been impossible for a year). But with the current iteration, I have no right to complain anymore :). Holes, Shri, Freezerburn, Chillers' Door Maze, Telepads, they all use guess well. It's not inherently a bad mechanic, though it can be used poorly. See literally any valley map.
 
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spolendina

twpsyn
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Apr 30, 2017
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If you do that, you need to seek help from an anger management specialist.

You can't place restrictions on the use of a mechanic without opening a big can of worms.
It wasn't literal. What I'm trying to say is, if you put time and effort in to a map and then halfway through there are four lava holes "Which one is it?" it's just a big middle finger to the player.
 

Drahmee

Occupation: Farmer
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Oct 26, 2015
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What can I say, I was an asshole back then, but I'm less of one now....xD
 

Srentiln

minr op since Nov 2011
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Tbf, drah, with the mechanics of the time hatter's map was the most infuriating :p

Zara's dark maze was just really bad for the eyes.
 

Drahmee

Occupation: Farmer
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Oct 26, 2015
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The funniest thing about Hatters was the number of death spam messages he sent due to lava before I gave him temp god mode! Must have been 150 in a couple of days
 
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